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  1. SamsDad

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    photo (6).JPG Well got the serpentine set up off an 87 Mustang GT, used a AC delete pulley for now but got the ac compressor, so much cleaner looking (we are still working on engine bay, lol) so it will get better, rear end should be ready in a week then time to test......also I'm in market for the disc brake components, I'll place an ad in "wanted" thanks
     
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    Lookin good! (y)

    What are your plans for a cooling fan?
     
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    for the short term just going to install a direct flex fan, then once the radiator is chosen, i.e. BeCool, many aftermarket aluminum, how many rows I'm gonna run, etc. etc. then I'm sure a twin electric fan set up will be the best route BUT we are going to be heading into fall and winterwhen he will be driving to school so we have a little time, the pressing issue is the disc brake conversion
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but that water pump will be turning the wrong direction won't it? :huh:
    Do you have the reverse direction pump on there? if so will that work?

    I ask because I don't know, but is the Mustang radiator inlet and outlet in the same place as a Maverick, and won't running the flow the other direction possibly loosen up debris in the Maverick radiator and heater core, will reverse direction work with a Maverick heater core?
     
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    i would hope that a reverse rotation water pump was also swapped in at this point.
    now if a standard rotation water pump is used, it wont reverse the flow of the coolant in the system. a water pump is centrifugal type of pump. it pulls from the center of the impeller and flings the coolant outward. when ran backwards it will still work this way, just not as efficiently.

    also Samsdad, make sure you get a reverse rotation fan for the reverse rotation of the water pump pulley.
     
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    Short of going to the junkyard and pulling a serpentine system off of a Mustang or other 302 application, who makes a low cost serpentine conversion? Most of the ones I see at Summit are ridiculously expensive!
     
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    would routing the belt under the pump pulley be an option?
     
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    How about a simpler approach.....unless the A/C is going back on.
     

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    Thanks for all those concerned, the pump is a reverse rotation pump as required on the 87 GT, the coolant flow still travels same direction as a standard pump, it's merely a cavatation (is that even a word, lol) type pump action as long as the impeller blades are correct for direction of rotation, all is fine......and I have tested this system and it works wonderful even without a fan installed at the moment, although lets get back in the upper 90's or 100's and a fan is a must, just searching for the right option to go with......the Taurus seems all good BUT then I have read concerns over the initial high start up amp draw, verifying that the Taurus does indeed come with a 200 amp seems it will be an issue.........what I can't understand is why Taurus can't get the peak amp draw down when top end companies such as BeCool makes premo systems , C& R Racing, etc. and they don't have huge peak amp draws...oh well again thanks for all the input but the serpentine system is working perfectly.
    p.s. I paid $115 for all the components from the timing cover forward including ac compressor, alt which I removed and used our chrome unit, a Ford Racing high flow water pump, thermostat housing, all pulleys, ps pump AND the smog pump (I'll sell it if you need one, lol)
    p.p.s. To all those running old v-belt set ups, this is one of the best swaps you can do, free's up power, belts not jumping off, no squealing belts as it stays with the correct tension...one last thing I do want to mention, the ac compressor would not mount perfectly, the back bottom end hit the valve cover right at the base and caused it to be out of line, not much it would still run and not throw the belt but would cause premature wear, I installed a AC eliminator pulley for now and am researching why this has this issue.....the motor is a 5.0 roller out of a GT, the serpentine is off of a 5.0 roller GT, only thing that comes to mind is that the aftermarket valve covers and we are using a tall valve cover gasket (est 3/8 inch thick) and maybe that's causing the clearance issue? Input anybody?
     
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    AC will be going back on, Arkansas gets miserable in summer:cussing:
     
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    "the Taurus seems all good BUT then I have read concerns over the initial high start up amp draw, verifying that the Taurus does indeed come with a 200 amp seems it will be an issue.........what I can't understand is why Taurus can't get the peak amp draw down when top end companies such as BeCool makes premo systems , C& R Racing, etc. and they don't have huge peak amp draws..."
    if you run the Volvo relay you can run a 20 amp fuse as everyone else does...
     
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    I have been using a 50amp fuse for my fan (crown vic condenser fan but same fan motor) and have never had an issue. The start up current is only excessive if there is an issue with the motor or mechanical resistance. My measured startup current when I put it together was around 29 amps and continuous was about 15 amps. A good quality relay like Frank mentioned is perfect for this application.
     
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    Thanks guys, looks like I'll be hunting a Taurus
     
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    I've done the Taurus fan swap. You can see it here. I tried a 30amp breaker before I did the 3G upgrade and it tripped. I went to a 40amp fuse after the swap and all is good.

    http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,36677.0.html

    As far as the A/C hitting the VC, I had to carefully remove about 3/16" from the lower rear end cap and polish about 1/16" from the VC. This is on my Cougar but the fit is still the same. comet elect fan install 001.JPG comet elect fan install 005.JPG
     
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    BIG THANKS, I totally had not thought of that ,:banghead: you sure saved me a headache because I had picked out a inexpensive fan I was just fixing to order from Summit
     

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