I have just bought a 74 2dr factory 302 car. I want to build a 12/13 sec street/strip car. I have a line on a 351 Windsor that came out of a 85 truck. It has been bored .030, the cranked turned .010 under, and balanced with 9.5 compression. The top end consists of an edelbrock performer RPM package which included the heads, cam, intake and carb. Does anyone know about this edelbrock package, what kind of performance I can expect, and if I should be able to meet my goal? What kind of bill would I be looking at to get the stock C4 built to handle the job with appropriate stall converter. Maybe a 411 gear in the rearend? I believe the 8" rear should hold up to this much power? Any opinions? Thanks, Jamie
does the 74 still have the 302. if so i'd build a 347 stroker. the 351w is a tight squeeze and you'll have a heck of a time changing plugs unless you modify the shock towers. it's a close one with the 302 block. the 8" will probably hold up but you'll probably need a spool to get the power to the pavement. as for the c-4. mine is stock except for a shift kit. i run low 12's with a 308. you'll be smart to get a set of frame connectors also. NOW, if i really wanted to use the 351w, i'd go for a mustang II front end, a 9" rear, a 3500 stall convertor, c-4, and lighten it wherever i could. wheels, aluminum radiator, glass hood, remove rear seat, small bumpers, etc.
the 302 is an easier fit. that 351 with a 3000+converter & 4.10 gears & spool with sticky tires should be maybe high 12s. changing plugs & fitting headers is a bitch, however. i would use a holley carb, tho, & maybe a little more cam. thats just me tho.
If this is your first build, I would go thru the 302 and use the heads and cam from the "W" in it. Will need some bushings for the head bolts(available from Edelbrock) and a 302 intake. Later on after some planning etc. you could put the 351 in there if you want. The C4 rebuild with shift kit, should not run more than 250.00 if you take it out to the shop. Ign., cam timing, wires, etc. can all be tweaked to get you in the 12's. But if you like a challenge and have patients, go for the 351 install. Any which way, get the Windsor and hang on to it.
I have an uncle who raced a couple of windsor mavericks so I have a resource for solving the fitment issues. I definitely would shave the shock towers. The deal on this engine is hard to beat. $2500 and 0 miles. The guys got over 4k in receipts. Had the engine built for a project that didn't happen. Seems that getting the windsor to work would be no more work then building up the 302. Just wanted to know if anyone had experience with this particular top end combo and what power I can expect. I am thinking 300-ish HP. Thanks, Jamie
OK, I don't mean to be a smart A$$ but did you hear what everyone said! If you can't do some serious fabing then DON'T try and put a 351W into a Mav/Comet. Headers alone will be a Bit$h, trust me I know and if you want it to really run it's got to breath. You will be miles ahead if you build a 302 into whatever you want it to be. The deal on the motor sounds great but it's no piece of cake to shoe horn the windsor in. If you would like, I know a guy who has a 500hp 347 sitting on the floor of his speed shop and I know he would love to sell it, just let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. As always just my .02 Bossmav
Windsor will fit...but you're going to want to make your own headers. Noone makes a set that goes in there without mods..... But, yeah, it can be done. I did it. Made good power/torque too...ran some 8.60's in the 1000' (6.60's 1/8 mile) with the stock front end but with shaved towers. Would I go through the effort again...probably not. M2 swap isn't that hard considering the amount of space that is freed up. But it, too, has it's share of problems and challenges, so neither one (shaving vs. M2 swap) is really "better". I don't have much experience with a 347, but dad's 331 runs 6.80's in the 1/8 all day long with the same heads & Victor Jr intake. It would fit a LOT better than the windsor...and they ain't that hard or expen$ive to build. Choice is yours. But it all depends on how much work you're willing to do and what kind of patience you have.
Whether the windsor goes in now or later ... it's been purchased. I could not pass the deal up. Evidently, the engine builder builds (or use to build) engines for a few busch north teams. So unless I was totally BSed the engine will wind up pretty free and easy and should last. MAVMAN I hear you. I will have to do some header fitment. Like I said, my uncle has done this to a couple of mavs (11 second cars) so I am hoping he can steer me clear of mistakes along the way.
well... that's an aerospace components master cylinder. i'm running aerospace brakes in the back and stock disc up front(soon to be aerospace)yes it was a bolt in item. i run a proportioning valve so brakes lines will have to be redone http://www.aerospacecomponents.com/master_cylinders.htm
jw ultra-bell when i bought the dynamic mitey-mite c-4. this came with it.i'm starting to realize a c-4 in hot rod/super street/bracket racing makes your job even tougher compared to a glide. that 1st gear leaving off the transbrake is knarly. especially witha 5.86 rear gear!!!my next plan is a glide/convertor/new shifter/and maybe a toilet(mech. fuel injection) dynamic c-4 and convertor might go up for sale!!
