pic of your AOD cross member, what shifter to use?

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  1. Ryan

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    I got my AOD in the car and hooked to the motor. Driveshaft and starter are in place and headers are in but need to be bent away from the tranny a little. Now I need to make my crossmember. Anybody have pics of how you made yours to give me some ideas?

    Also my stock Ford floorshifter will not work. There is no room for the linkage. What kind of shifters have you guys used with an AOD swap?
     
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    B&M and Hurst both make cable ratchet shifters for an AOD. You can get them from Summit or Jegs. Some shifters you will need to buy the optional AOD trans linkage but will work just fine.
     
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    Has anybody actually done this swap? I am beginning to wonder. All I hear is people saying it has been done and a bunch of vague tech info about it that would be known even if they didn't do the swap. Like I never hear anything about getting the right block plate to match the AOD, The right starter to match flywheel and fit through the right block plate, how did you use the stock shifter, type of crossmember that was made or pictures of it, or "by the way, you are going to need 1/2" longer bolts to bolt bell housing to motor". I guess when mine is done this weekend I will keep it all a secret too.
     
  5. Dan Starnes

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    I seriously doubt the stock floor shifter will work in this application. Geometry. Now that you have posted this, your questions will be answered. Looking for a bolt on application? That aint hot roddin. If it was easy, anyone could do it.
    Dan
     
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    I used parts of the stock C4 column shift linkage at the cross shaft on frame rail side . And parts from a AOD cross shaft at trans side (parts meaning the levers .C4 levers are shorter than AOD levers ).I took a lenght of 7/16 bar stock long enough to go between the frame pivot mount and trans pivot mount .
    On this shaft on frame side i used a C4 lever on trans side i used a AOD lever .
    On each lever i welded a 7/16 bearing shaft collar stop with a allen set screw in it for later adjustments .
    The linkage rods are all from a AOD column shift car ( crown victoria ) from top to bottom with the adjustable rod from column the cross shaft .
    Take and assumble all your parts on cross shaft place all rods from column to trans find neutral on trans . place shifter in neutral than tighten set screws . keep playing with adjustment untill you get all gears than weld the collars to shaft .

    Will try to take pic this weekend

    thx jay
     
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    thanks Jay,
    are you are speaking of a stock mav floor shifter or column shift :huh: i saw a cable floor shifter in Summit (Unimatic Shifter #BMM80775) for an AOD w/out console...frank...:bouncy:
     
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    As far as anyone "Keeping secrets form you" :bs: That is just not in the nature of the people on this board. As far as mounting the trans to the engine, installing the starter, and what plate to use. From your first post you have figured that out, so why even mention that? You were given some options on the shifter and some other things so what is the problem? From what you have done already you seem to be mechanicly inclined and if you say there is no room for the stock floor shifter then we have to take your word for it. As for the cross member, there are several ways to do it. You could modify your stock cross member with an extention, or you could make your own. When I installed the C-6 in mine I made my own and drilled 2 holes on each frame rail and welded in sleaves so the bolts would not crush the frame rail. After I got the bolt holes made I made gussets and bolted them to the frame rails. Then I jacked the trans up to where I wanted to mount it and built a cross member out of 2"X1" square tubing and welded a slotted flange to mount the trans mount to. Not a very hard thing to do just time consuming.
    Not everyone here is a mechanic or fabricator so there is no reason to talk down to us and assume that we are keeping things from you. I have never seen a question ask on here that was not answered by someone. We cant do it for you. I am fixin to do the same thing you are doing right now in a couple of months. At that time I will be more than glad to document all that I do on my build. If you are still stuck on your install you can look at what I will be doing and get some ideas. I will post several times in the FAQ pages from everything like how to install a factory spoiler on a non grabber trunk lid to installing leaf springs that you can get in a salvage yard that will get your rear end where you want it. I am all about saving money and will be more than glad to share all that I do with anyone as long as they take it for what it is and maybe inprove it a little for themself.
     
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    I'll give you a few more ?? to ponder......what carb are you running......do you have the propper linkage for the throttle cable/or rod for the aod (it is different than the kick down lever for the c-4 c-6)are you sure you have the right flex plate if you do not have the right one it can wipe out the pump. I have never installed an aod in a maverick so I could not answer the cross member ?? other than you will probably have to build your own (I had to for the c-6 in my car)as for the shifter I would just go for the b&m. as for the bolts, plate ect....I usually buy a junk car for a donor, that way I usually have what I need.
     
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    Well I guess I was upset because I have been asking many questions about doing an daod swap on here and I know it has been done but haven't gotten very little answers or tips from the ones that have done it. Instead I get " what you talkin bout willis" to my stock shifter question and of course I know summit sells shifter. If I had done this swap already I would be the first one on here to answer somebodys questions about what parts are necessary what needs to be modified and whatever tips I could.

    For the mount my neighbor and I are thinking about making one like described above, 1 1/2" square tube ran between frame rails with a plate in the middle. I don't see any room to use the stock mounting points but if it has been done I would love to see pictures.

    Jay, that is a LOT of work to keep a column ****er. Nice job.

    I will probably be using a cable shifter but I need something that shifts easily both up and down. Some ratchet shifters are a pain to down shift. Since I have a full manual valve body I want it to be as smooth as possible, like the way a factory shifter is.
     
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    I probobly can't help you but I would like to see your pics if you have any...

    I feel you on the queer remarks... **it happens from time to time:drink:
     
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    Ryan,
    sorry the "willis" comment :mad: you. :Handshake
    i am wanting to use my stock mav. floor shifter... do you have the "hump" for the shifter and if not do you think the shifter would work with the hump?
    ...Ryans' AOD friend Frank...:bouncy:

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    I am not using the factory floor shifter .I am using the factory column shifter with a combinations of C4 AND aob parts . Could not get pic this weekend will try next weekend ( of linkage and trans mount )

    thx jay
     
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    Gene, there is a webite link at the bottom of my posts. I have pictures on there. The site is old and missing some pics but it is on a free site that came with an internet provider i don't even pay for anymore.

    I don't think the shifter would work even with the hump. The AOD is wider and longer than the c4. So the trany is still pretty wide right under the shifter. No longer a straight shot to the linkage. Plus the aod linkage hooks up on the bottom so you would have to make a linkage that goes 90 degrees to the left to get around the tranny and then down 45 degrees to the linkage all with no room.
     

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