anybody have any ideal what an old 289 hipo crate motor might be worth its at least 20 years old still in the crate. its just sitting in this guy i knows garage it was for an old galaxy restoration that never got done and he offered to sell it to me. thanks john
If it is a real 289 hipo it has been sitting in a crate a lot longer than 20 years. They were last used in production in 1967. There are K code enthusiasts that would pay a lot of money for it.
ok, is it a 5 bolt bellhousing 289, or a 6 bolt bellhousing? 6 bolt would be more desirable, but hey if it's priced right......
Alot considering a sold a used K code crank shaft with crank hatchet for $550, a set of main caps for $600 and a balancer for $500. If it truly is a K-code long block then I would say upwards of $5K easily to someone needing one. - Matt
if the guy will let you... at the very least pull a valve cover and look at the push rod holes in the heads.If they are round it aint no K code...if they are slotted and the guy wants 500.00 bucks for it.JUMP ON IT Also look at the crank snout if it has a balancer on it behind the balancer is an extra weight.If its there JUMP ON IT.K code 289 "usually" had an orange paint daub on the back of the block(may not see it if the flywheel/flexplate is installed) look closely...good luck...
ok so what all should i look for as far as casting numbers and i am sure the guy will let me look it over good. he hasnt told many people about it .
I would check out http://www.hipomustang.com/images/hipoeng/ for some good pics. The valve spring pockets will have a slight lip around the bottom to keep the valve springs from walking out under higher RPMs. Also the extra counter balance is behind the crank sprocket on the crank shaft so not visible without taking the oil pan off. While your in there check to make sure its got the thicker main caps on 1, 2 & 3 main caps. The rods should have 3/8 " rod bolts. -Matt
All early 289's have close tolerance slots in the head to guide the push rods. The round hole came out in 1966.5 when Rail Rockers were introduced.
If it a 5 bolt bell, Casting # C30E-B or C4OE-B If its a 6 bolt bell, Casting # C5AE-E These are the #S i have for the HPO 289. The HP 289 also had screw in rocker studs. The head casting #s are C3OE, C4OE-B, C5OE-A, or E. The Distributor casting # C3OF-A,C5OF-B. If it is a stock dizzy it will be a dual point set up. The exhaust manifold #s C3OZ-C, C3OZ-B. There were 5 differnt intake manifolds all but one was aluminum. Maybe this will help.
You can't go by the head casting number along. I have a set of 260 heads with C3OE number. With slotted pushrod guides
I agree Jeff. Take a look at the pictures on the Hipo Mustang exchange site and you'll see the cast in pockets for the valves to set in and the screw in rocker studs. These are the two things you need to look for. If their not there, then their not Hipo heads. - Matt
I think that is where the -B,E,A comes into play. I didnt realize i had put one number without the -and letter.
If you Google C3OE you will see a lot of people accept this number being HiPo heads. See: http://www.a351must2.atfreeweb.com/FAQs/head.htm Another misconception with early SBF parts is the 160 tooth flywheel. People will say Ford made only 157 & 164 tooth flywheels. I'm still trying to figure out why people call a 289-302 a Windsor..all 289's and 302's were cast in Cleavland Ohio. The 351W was cast in Windsor. Is this the same reason people call a aftermarket rack & pinion suspension a Mustang II front end? Why not call it a Pinto front end instead?? :Handshake
