power steering issue

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  1. sam03rc

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    ok here is my question. i have a leak on my power steering right at i think its the lube ball socket not really sure. but the steering is really loose like when i turn the wheel there is no resistance at all. havent been out to really drive her to see how loose it really is or play in the wheel since im waiting for a whole new fuel tank and sending unit but i dont know if i should just get a new control valve ( http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=CV7+01
    ) or just get this which is a manual steering conversion adapter http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=MU3304A+01
    if any one has done this either one and can help me i would really appreciate it thanks i am low on cash and going for the cheapest and will help my car handle the best thanks
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    Alot of that play at the control valve ball joint is normal. I went through two, thinking that all the slop in my steering was from a faulty valve, but apparently, that slop is part of how it works (it has to move a certain distance one way or the other before it activates the power ram).

    I went full manual, and several guys have done the adapter.

    Ooops! Frank hit SEND just a couple seconds before I did.
     
  4. sam03rc

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    ok so the conversion is still sloppy??? like alot of play ? and who else has done the manual conversion is it the same for you??
     
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    The full manual conversion is tight. That includes all manual parts, plus or minus the steering box. But if you leave the ball-joint in question in there, you may have some play.

    Mine is tight as a drum, but I have ALL the manual parts from the pitman arm to the spindles (and manual box, but you might be able to get by with a power steering box with a little more arm power). I swapped in all of this from a manual car...

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    There's two complete manual setups in the for sale section right now.....
     
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    Go to the manual set up.The adaptor will leave you wanting less slop.The ball socket on my Sprint was so bad I pulled it loose with my hand(after having driven it a few times...Once or twice at full throttle:eek3:)I am a small guy and think the power box with the manual parts is just fine as far as necessary effort to turn the wheels is concerned.Good luck!!!
     
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    so i should go with a full manual and not worry about the conversion kit or even fixing the power steering? ok if that is what would be best for the money and handling. how hard is it to remove and install the new rack? and what parts would i need ? i would need to have it realigned after right or with steering can you just bolt it in and set it when wheels are straight
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    the only thing i replaced was the...drag link and pitman arm...from a '70 maverick...
    ...(thanks Mike)...:Handshake

    use a...pitman arm puller...when you remove it...:yup:

    Frank...:drive:
     
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    The pitman arm will only fit 4 ways because the way the splines are cut. If you don't turn the steering wheel once you pulled the old center link you should have no worries getting it back on right...and yes, anytime you do any work on the front suspension you will need to get it realigned
     
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    ok so i just need a new drag link and pitarm with a manual steering box?
     
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    I used my...power steering box...w/manual drag link/pitman arm...:thumbs2:

    ...:drive:...
     
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    It does't have to be new...I used one 35 yeas old. :tiphat:
     
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    ok cool so i can get this right a new pit arm which is attached to the steering box and a new drag link which attaches the pit arm to the tie rods right? and just like search ebay then? is it the same as the mustang and falcon cus i can get some cheap from jonhson's mustang junkyard down the road
     
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    I have a couple of pitman arm/centerlink sets for sale in the classified section. There are two different idler arm types; the early one is links beneath the centerlink, the later one on top.

    I have pictures from the shop manuals of this, http://img24.imageshack.us/g/laterpowersteeringbookp.jpg/

    I think the early power steering idler is not as depicted in the shop manuals, so I also included a picture of my 1973 Comet's power steering idler arm- it seems to be the same as the early manual ones.

    Also when you go to manual and remove your power steering pump, you'll probably have to do something with your pulley arrangement.

    -Josh
     

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