Transmission Q/A

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  1. Boosha

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    I plan on using a t10 trans in my mav,along with gt40p heads,the xtra header flanges,and hooker 6901's.Car doesn't have p/s.I don't want to use the factory z-bar setup,as they tend to wear out,and get sloppy,through the years.I was looking at mustang steves websight,but don't think a cable setup will work,because of the headers.Is there a way i could keep the t10 bell and hook up a hydraulic setup,or is there a hydraulic bell that would mate up to the older t10?I was thinking that maybe I could adapt a hydraulic setup to the factory t10 bell?If anyone has done this,do you have any part#'s of what you used?Thanks All.:tiphat:

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    There are two types of hydraulic clutch systems that you can use. Either one will take some fabricating and fitting.
    The first is to use a master cylinder and slave with an activating rod to work the throw-out lever. You may not have room for this with the headers you have or you might have to fabricat a bracket to fit with them or modify the headers for clearance.
    The next is a hydraulic throw-out bearing and master cylinder. In this one the only connection is a metal line that runs down to the bell housing fitting that goes through the bell and connects to a hose that goes to a hydraulic throw-out bearing that is the slave cylinder. This kind you have to use shims to adjust the throw-out bearing for the clutch you have.
    In both of these systems you have to mount the master cylinder to the fire wall and modify the pedal arm to work.

    If you replace the bushings in the bell-crank with new and use new felt seals you can fit a zerk fitting to the bell-crank to lube it from time to time and eliminate any early wear. It should last at least 20 years without any problems - then you just replace the bushings and start again.
     
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    McCleod makes a hydro throwout bearing that'll work, but it ain't cheap. I used one with a Toploader 4 speed in my 89 Ranger behind the V8. The external slaves won't work with the external shifter linkage rods of these transmissions. Between that and the headers, the hydro throwout bearing is the only way to go hydraulic.
     
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    They typically mount on a bracket that bolts to the bellhousing.
     
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    Paul,thats what I was thinking.Shouldn't be too hard to make something up,and tuck it away from the headers.
     
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    Why use a T-10 when t5's are way more plentiful and useful?...If you insist, a hydraulic T/O bearing is the way to go although they have to be shimmed right and if it starts leaking the tranny has to come out....Slaves come in either a pusher or a puller.....With a T-10 and it's side shifter forks you'd need to mount it in front of the clutch fork {engine side} and use a pusher with an earlier style bellhousing and fork or a puller with a later style set up
     
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    Good luck with that. ;) Gonna have to wrap it too, to keep the header heat from boiling the brake fluid.
     
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    Because I already have the t10 here:) I can't seem to find any info as to what bell I can use,the t10 or a t5 bell.Where there's a will there's a way.
     
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    If I end up going this route,I'll either wrap the headers,or the assembly.
     
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    There's probably a market for the T-10 with the restoration guy's
     
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    T10's input shaft is too short to use with a T5 bell. You'll have to stick with the T10 bell or a Toploader bell, if the T10's throwout bearing retainer fits the Toploader bell opening. Forget a Tremec or SROD bell too, these are also deeper than the older bells. If I'm not mistaken the T10 also uses a 25 spline output in stead of the other Ford's 28 or 31. Check on that before going too far.
     

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