Anybody running e85?

okay thats what I thought. Im used to seeing things like that on imports.

thats a good way to keep the power under your hood and have a sleeper like that silver comet thats super charged

 

You need to also check if your tank will work with E85. It is highly corrosive to metal parts.

 

true, if you have original gastank
If you replaced it with a newone from spectra or whatever vendor you'll be good as now adays they coat things to handle todays gas.
but cant go wrong with a SS stang tank
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-FORD-MUSTANG-STAINLESS-STEEL-GAS-TANK-NEW-/230557051538

 

wow how many of you are running or have ran e85 giving all this info......

 

I think you have too much compression for the blower. You need to be a couple points less. Is your bottom end built to handle the extra pressures it will be dealing with? Is your engine cammed for the blower?

Do you realize that E-85 is a very inconsistently mixed fuel? Buy a hydrometer and check a few gallons. The actual percentages jump around a lot.

E-85 will do several things for you. It will attack all things metal, eat any rubber hoses, gum up if not kept in use and you will burn nearly half again as much to produce the same BTU's ad you would with gas.. You will need around 20% more fuel an part throttle and 40% more fuel at wide open throttle. Will your entire fuel system support that additional flow needed?

You will need to run a lot more timing and a different timing curve. E-85 is a very slow burning fuel and you need to get that spark started early.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/hrdp_0801_e85_ethanol_alternative_fuel/viewall.html



Also realize your mileage will go down as well as your options of where to buy fuel. Not everyone sells E-85, it's not available just anywhere.

It looks good at first thought. I ran methanol alcohol engines for 10 years racing, have messed with an ethanol fired 1000HP Honda drag car and I prefer to continue burning dinosaur bones in my vehicles. The gains aren't worth it to me.

JMO
SPark

 

Well...I DO run E-85, and I love it! As long as they're selling it, I won't be running race gas. I did change to a poly fuel cell and black nylon-braided lines when I made the switch. I'm also running an Aeromotive A1000 Fuel pump, and it provides more than enough fuel supply. I run a return-style regulator, and have had no issues. I can buy it locally from the pump, and test it regularly. I haven't noticed the wide range of percentage change like some report. I do see a change from summer to fall/winter, but that's about it.

My car runs cooler, and throttle response is fine. I double enter my car in two classes racing, and cooling down between classes is a non-issue. In fact, in the fall, I often have to let the car run to get heat in the motor. Right now, it's less than $3 a gallon locally...vs $7.50-$8 at the minimum for a gallon of race gas. I haven't seen any inordinant buildup of sludge or anything else in the motor...and I've had it apart plenty! In fact, the pistons and valves usually only have a slight discoloration to them that wipes off with a rag...absoloutely NO carbon buildup whatsoever. Oil has always looked fine...just black...same as it was when I ran gas. I have noticed a stickiness in my phenolic carb spacer, but that's about it. I figure something in it's composition (maybe BPA) is incompatible with the fuel. Hasn't really caused any issues though...and I made a mental note to get an aluminum spacer next time I place an order to the parts house.

As far as using with a super charger, I have zero experience there...but I do run 13-13.5 to 1 compression...and it's never hiccupped once. I'm still running 34 degrees total timing...haven't tried more yet, as the car seems to like it just fine where it's at, and I barely have enough time to get to the track and race, much less test and tune lol. If I ever get a break, I may play around some with the timing and see what it does. Until then...I'm definitely an advocate for the corn juice! Oh...I also ran it in mine when I only had about 10-1 comp ratio with flat tops...and it ran fine then as well.

I have no real world experience with it doing anything nasty to any part of my fuel system, or engine. Nor have I actually met anyone who runs it who has either (and there are several of us who run it locally, including my brother, nephew, and cousins). However, all of us are running fuel system components that are compatible with E-85 to begin with.

That's my .02...it's worth exactly what you paid for it

Good luck with it!

 

OMG, I can't believe all the false information in this thread. Except for Max, trust what he says. I've been running E85 as well for years with no issues at all. It's good stuff, very consistent, and won't break down like gas in the off season. I paid $2.92 at the pump for my last batch, my buddy pays $10.00 for race fuel at the track. Save your money for some more go fast parts.

 

It's nice to know people have real world experience with e85. Hopefully there's a couple more e85 stations that will pop up. Thanks for the input.

 

http://www.penngrade1.com/CMSFiles/File/March 2011_E85_TECH_LETTER_BRAD_PENN.pdf

This was regarding e-85 and motor oil turning to green like jelly
it never happened to me, but seemed to happen to a quite a few people on the net
link to green oil jelly
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451817&page=2

black crap on injectors ,this one is new to me supposivly from an additive within E-85
http://www.galantvr4.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=UBB2&Number=1021893

 

I've seen and read all of the links above before, and when I first saw them, it gave me pause. But, I can assure you, other than the sticky inside of my phenolic carb spacer...I've had zero issues. I'll see if I can find the pistons I took out and post up a pic.


Ok...edited...I just went out and snapped a pic of a piston that was run for 3 years on E-85. And I routinely double enter the car in Pro and Footbrake. With these flat top pistons, the car was running 7.0's in the 1/8th mile at around 98 mph. It wasn't babied at all lol. Valves looked the same way...there just wasn't any kind of buildup there. This stuff burns clean.

 

yeah, never had any issues either, but when i read the first link, I switched from brad penn to amsoil and use their e85 stabile for the buick

 

anyone use this in street cars? excellent thread

 

Hey Maxx, what was your combo? I'm running the same pistons on my comet. 347 probe flst tops.

 

I agree ive been running e85 for 10 yrs,love it clean motor ,change my oil like gas guys several times a year,stock tank with sump,i cant believe all the miss information here,us guys that run it love it ,it adds about 5 % more hp 1/3 the cost of race fuel,will handle 13 to 1 comp.,runs clean,cool,and loves timing......

 

I do on my s10 ,and my 02 z28