No oil pressure

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  1. John Holden

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    If you're breaking in a new motor then I'm sure you primed the pump. Hook up the priming tool again and see what happens.
     
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    Also heard that a slug of sealer could get into the oil pump, seize it, and twist off a drive shaft.
     
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    John Holden is correct, you need to mark the position of the distributor (mark on the side of the distributor then on the intake manifold and also mark where the rotor is pointing on the side of the distributor) then pull the distributor..................hook up the oil primer and spin it with a drill, you will know if it is in the oil pump for sure..............if you are spinning and still not getting any oil pressure.......................the next question is what kind of assembly lube did you use..............I have seen motors that clogged up the oil filter to the point of restricting the oil and getting no pressure reading............although you should have some because the filter should have a bypass valve.................IMHO
     
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    thanks a lot guys for the input, i built the motor myself and i did use silicone on the oil pan gasket, not a lot but im sure that could be a possibility. dang. well tomorrow ill drain the fluid and see what the oil looks like and whats in it. you should have some metal shavings in there but not too much on your break in right?
     
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    yes i am very aware of how serious of a situation this is right now...i also have to break in the cam too. hopefully i didnt damage that ether. they said you should constantly run for 20-30 min right away at first start. i think i was lucky to get 7min before i noticed no pressure
     
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    When you drain the oil put it in a clean pan or you can drain it through some clean paper towels..............you want to see any particles that come out. If you drain the oil into a large clean pan to see flecks in the oil and it looks like metal flake paint before you spray it..........or you see shinny flakes in the oil I would take the oil filter off and cut it apart. Then take the element out and spread it over clean paper towels and look for the same thing, metal flakes. You should not see a lot depending on what type of rings you used, Moly, Cast and I doubt you used chrome but the cast would show more than the chrome of Moly. It also depends on how much assembly lube you used, you don't need a lot...........but that can clog up a filter really fast.
    Let us know and take some pictures if you are not sure what you are looking at.........................we are here to help.
     
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    The first 5 minutes on break-in are the most critical...........the other 10/15 is just to make sure you didn't wipe a lobe.
     
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    The clip on the pump drive goes on the dizz ( top end ) of the shaft as well that end of the shaft has a pointed tapper for dizz alignment . The clip is a stop to keep a person from pulling drive out of the pump when removing the dizz .

    So if you have a missing clip or drive is installed up side down take the time saving step and pull the pan.

    Jay
     
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    The pump is not locked up and the shaft is not broken and the clip is in where it supposed to be (as i suspected). i removed the filter and put on the new one. i cut open the old one and checked the element inside. i did not see any metal shavings. i primed the pump again with a 1200 rpm drill. one gauge picked up 5psi if that and the other one didnt move. at max speed oil would pour out right above the shaft, im guessing that is the oil return? if so knowing the oil flows throughout the engine, i am coming to conclusion that a pug popped out behind the timing gear? i will drain the oil tomorrow and check for and major metal shavings and if i dont see any i will believe that the bearings are still good.
     
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    Which way did you have the drill turning?
     
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    counterclockwise as believe correct.
     
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    Take a valve cover off, and see if oil is flowing out into the rockers. Use an electric drill.
     
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    Sure sounds like that's the problem, by no means should it be dumping a large stream of oil... Good news as there was still some oil at the bearings and probably enough splash to keep the cam lubed, even if pressure was almost nil...
     
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    Was his name Milo or Otis? J/K
    Glad you are getting to the problem, you still had some oil flow so that's a good thing.
     
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    ok the oil is fine..drained and put a magnet into it and picked up no metal shavings, just glitter which is fine. ran the oil pump with valve covers off and no oil was coming through the push rods. i am almost certain it is one of the plugs. all are the plugs located behind the timing cover?
     

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