Manual Transmission

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  1. FreddyC

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    My son have a 71 Maverick that basically needs a new motor and trany. We are going to have a friend rebuild the Ford 302 (from an 83 Mustang) that was probably put into the car in the early 90s, but it appears the automatic 3 speed is also toast. Both will be removed at the same time and my son would like to convert it over to a manual transmission. I read this article here
    http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_1206_600_dollar_five_speed_swap/ and it really seems like a lot of work, probably beyond our capabilities. What is he easiest way to make the conversion, and how much should I budget?
    Thanks
     
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    I would leave it a automatic my self. If you have a great transmission tech.(y)
     
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    parts alone ( pedals to rear gear) could put it over the top...not to mention the labor for install...:yup:

    ...:chirp:...
     
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    Your '83 block should have provision for the clutch cable. The 71 has a slightly larger trans tunnel than my 70 so you may not need to open up the top of the tunnel like I did. Except for some fabrication on clutch pedal and the trans crossmember everything else pretty much bolts in. If you're keeping the 8" rear the original driveshaft might work, too.
     
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    You can add an 1" spacer between the t5's bellhousing and fork fulcrum to keep it mechanical linkage. Stay away from cable or hydraulic.

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    As for budget, it just depends on the deals you find... I started with a $300 t5 and started collecting parts, I'm up to $1029 so far....
     
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    Pony Express Haul'in @**

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    I'm curious to know why?
     
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    me too!! whats bad in hydraulic? :hmmm:
     
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    Dave B I like Mavericks!

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    Nothing that I can see, loads of people are using them now.
     
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    Jamie Miles the road warrior

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    Hell, what's wrong with cable? I've got about 40,000 miles on my mustang steve cable conversion. Not had a single problem with it.
     
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    To answer his question "easiest way to make the conversion". It is easier to drill two holes for a $30 spacer and use factory parts than reinventing the wheel to make other parts fit that didn't come on the car. It took me one day to swap over from a C4 to a t5 and another 2 hours the next day to have a custom mount made to clear my custom exhaust. The draw back on a hydraulic clutch is the lazy return effects speed shifting. This is why you don't see them on a road race or pro stock car. The cable system can't pull a high performance 3 finger pressure plate, they stretch and break with a diaphragm and they hate the heat from the header. The cable system requires a quadrant that doesn't fit an Maverick without hammering a dent on the under side of the cowl.
     
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    Does the Mustang Steve cable kit use a quadrant?

    To use a z-bar with that block he'll also need to buy or fab an adaptor bracket, which is what I did. I also prefer a mechanical linkage but the OP's question was about ease of assembly and budget. I'm running '66 Mustang z-bar and bottom rod with a custom spherical rod top. My car was a manual trans from the get-go so it was easy for me. The OP will have to source frame-side bracket and bushings to go mechanical. And if he uses an old bellhousing/release fork, as I did, he'll need an adaptor plate to mount the tranny to the bell. So many ways to skin this cat.
     
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    No reason to disagree with your logic. So it comes down to type of application.

    I won't be doing anything more than daily driving or car shows, so hydraulic is fine for my needs.
     
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    Its always "no good". If Jeff or Frank don't use it, everyone should know that by now......
     
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    Hydraulic is fine on the street car. I'm just saying staying with mechanical linkage is a lot easier work when swapping from an automatic to manual...the factory has it already figured out. All I had to do is bore a hole in the firewall for the linkage's dust boot. The rest of the linkage bolted in place. Only draw back, if you want to call it a draw back, is it takes a little bit more leg power compared to a modern car with hydraulics to push in the clutch.
     

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