302 or 351 that is the question?

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  1. night

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    I am new to fords:coco: . i have an 77 maverick that has a 250 s6. and i am wanting to install an 302 or a 351. I know a guy that has something but not sure what kind of motor it is. he says that it is a 352. i dont think ford built i 352. it is in a 77 f 100... how can i tell what motor it is. is it a 302 or a 351.. can anyone help with telling what motor is installed in the truck....
     
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    Yes, ford built a 352. If it is an original truck it is probably a 360. That is bout all this mind can muster at this time of nite.
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    thanks for the info, now have to figure what kind of motor it really is.. should i forget about the 352 and wait for 302 or a 351 come along. :confused:
     
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    The FE motors are easy to spot because the intake goes under the valve cover. FE motors include 332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 427, & 428. You can get alot more hp out of a 351 or 302 for a lot less money than the FE. Plus the 303/351 is a bolt in.
     
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    certainly for a lot less money, but those FE heads are pretty darn good... I've got a 352 here, thinking of making a 390 with it. Huge ports, big valves, good stuff.
     
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    if you want an engine that will fit in with no major mods, stick with the 302. can be stroked to 347 easily. 351w fits but changing the plugs is a pain. all the parts you need to change to a v8 are bolt ons.:)
     
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    Ford made at least 4 variations of 352 cubic inch engines.

    352 FE
    352 W
    352 C
    352 M

    Only the last 3 were called 351s so that dealership mechanics and parts counters would not confuse them with the FE 352s which were still common in 1968...
    :huh: I know... useless trivia.
    Just had to do it.
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    i have a fe block motor hanging in my garage for my mav .put a 302 family block in the car this fe will not fit without modification!unless you bolt the motor diectly to the shock tower at the exhaust ports.
     
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    Shave the towers a bit and get either Hedman or Hooker swap headers...

    I wouldn't play with any FE smaller than 400 cid though...
    Just my opinion.
     
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    what are the header numbers?i havent tried to actually put the motor in yet but it looks real tighty
     
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    Here is a bit of info off the net---332 thru 428FE engines weigh 625lbs. compared to 460 for the 302 and 525 for the 351W. Width of the FE's is 27in and length is 32 in, with a height of 29in. The 302 is 24 wide, 29 long and 27.5 tall. 351W is 25 wide , 29 long and 29 tall. Would be a projedt to use the FE in a Mav, to say the least.
     
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    77 F100's had alot of 351M's in them. valve covers look like the old Clevelands and I think the fuel pump bolts are verticle
    clint
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't bother with an FE for the weight factor alone.
    Some folks are determined though... that is why I threw out the fact that there are several FE into Mav swap headers.
    One good thing about FEs is that the exhaust ports point down, like the Cleveland... so the effective width in the engine bay is about the same as a Windsor which shoots the exhaust primaries straight out if it's sides. Right at the towers.
    Dave
     
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    If it's a 77 F150 it could have a 351M, 351W or 302.

    A good way to tell if it's an FE is look on the front of the block on the driver's side. It should have 352 cast into it regardless of how many CID it really is.

    I have 3 67-72 Ford trucks and alot of junkyard time, and I have gotten pretty good at identifying this stuff.
     
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    '352' was the casting stamp from the engine foundry on many of the
    FE engines: 360, 390, 352 etc.

    Seth
     

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