5.0 good deal?

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  1. vvr210

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    I have been searching for a 5.0 block to build for some time now. This weekend I met a guy who has a shop and builds nothing but mustangs. He has a 5.0 built already with edelbrock heads that was in a bronco but wasnt making enough power so they went with a 347 stroker. This motor is a 306 with edelbrock heads, solid rockers,B303 cam and afr head bolts. Its missing the oil pan intake and carburetor. I will also need to get new valve covers for it or swap mine out. He is asking 1800 for the motor and if he installed it in my mav I would be looking around 2500. Do you guys think thats a fair price for this engine?
     

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    I wish you lived closer I would sell you mine for $150.00 complete intake to pan.
     
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    Not bad at all...The heads alone will run you that much...
     
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    If it is a solid motor I would say that is a fair price. I would request a compression test on it.
     
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    Yeah ill tell him about the compression check. Cruzin what type of motor do you have?shipping shouldnt be too much from colorado to california lol
     
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    Will this type of build be suitable for street driving? I have a 600cfm edelbrock and a 289 air performer edlebrock intske to go with it.
     
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    I'd try not to drool too hard and maybe talk him down a bit if you can. Used e-brocks are less than a grand for often usable pieces and that shortblock looks to be stock low compression fare. You could build a low budget stroker with much better parts for not much more money these days. Not even worth rebuilding stock stuff and you can thank the influx of off-shore parts for the huge SBF selection and competitive pricing caused by market saturation.

    Is the cam stock or at least slightly above?

    Power for that deal is likely around 275'ish depending on compression and cam. You don't want that little regular Performer 289 on there.. well, maybe for the interim.. but eventually you'll want to get into a bigger high-rise dual plane. Then put a decent hot RV style cam around 215-220° @ .050 lift and go have some fun. Don't forget the shorter gear and small converter either. 3.50'ish ratio with around 2,500 rpm stall speed. With good exhaust maybe you'll see around 310-320 horse and it'll set you back much further in your seat.

    And you don't want to know what Cruzin has in that ride. It'll cause many to have inferiority complexes and get all jealous. lol

    No.. he has a big-bore 347.. also known as a 363.. with some killer Trick flow 205cc 11R heads. But if it makes you feel any better.. the cam is a bit undersized so it will likely only make in the mid-to-high 400's. Hardly any torque either.. maybe around 440'ish at most. Just a cruiser for his dad. :dizzy:
     
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    The cam is the ford racing b303 cam. He told me it should nake around 290 to 300 hp. I currently have a 69 302 hooked up to a T5 with 3.55 gears and a detroit true trac limited slip. I was thinking of building a 331 stroker but I csme across this one and figured if its ready to drop and go why not buy it. I havent found a better deal around here. I was referred to this guy with the engine by another maverick guy in my area that I just met. More and more Mavericks are starting to pop up in my area.

    And I seen his build that motor is just insane! But im sure thats not the one hes selling for $150! lol
     
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    I have stock 8 inch in the rear and doug thorley shortirs.will the shorties still fit?
     
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    That's not too bad then. Ask him about the pistons used and final compression ratio. The compression test should tell you something about the combo's effectiveness for a power curve.

    And hit Cruzin up for good deals while he's looking to sell cause last I read.. he's looking for another car right now. We all know that if he was actually made of money.. he probably wouldn't be building Mavericks. :whistle: :p
     
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    They should if they are meant for these cars. A lot of guys run them and like the clearance. I don't like them because they cost torque across the entire rpm range. But.. I'm more on the extreme side as I would rather smack collectors on speed-bumps than give up any power.. so, there's that. lol

    As for the rear?.. I thought you just said you had 3.55 limited slip rear? If not?.. then the stock rear gear will make that cam feel soggy down low. It'll start to really come alive once you get moving along, up on the cam, and hit 2,500-3,000 rpm though.
     
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    In addition to the compression check, at least shake all the rods on their journals and take a good look at the piston skirts for possible scuffing... From what can be seen skirt appears to have a normal pattern but be sure... If it checks out you have a great deal...

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    I do have 3.55s and a limited slip in the stock 8 " for the maverick. As far as the pistons, he said they were stock pistons
     
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    Is it just my eyes?.. or do those not look like ARP rod bolts? I have mine apart and they don't look the same. Not a deal breaker of course.. but as rpm and power levels go up.. stock bolts just don't cut it any more. RPM with those heavy-as-hell stock pistons is what will get you into trouble.
     

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