Its been a while....

Its been a while since I posted, you know, life has been happening.
I just pulled the old 6 ticker out, still runs ok, but its still a 6 banger. Just finished setting the 351 Cleveland in it to fit everything in. It fits ok, but I will be cutting the shock towers. Not using side motor mounts, using a plate instead. Also, using a C6 instead of C4 since that is what I had. Ready to run C6 with 5000 stall convertor...never missed a beat in my dads old Mustang. The C6 is a `70 4V, will be pulling it back out this weekend to tear it down and get it to the machine shop. Going back together with a set of Wiseco dome pistons, big solid cam, and 4.56 gears and spool in a `57 9 inch, and the aforementioned C6 and convertor. Most of the car is bare metal now, and will be refinished in Grabber Green...That is my sons favorite color, and I told him when he is old enough to drive, he can have it. The Weld Rod lites are staying, but the 295 50 15s will be replaced with either 26X10s or 27X10s. Cal Tracs will be on also. Just got a 8 gallon fuel cell and 1/2 inch line, plus a billet aeromotive electric fuel pump.. I have a lot of other stuff going on with it too, so, when I get some more of it done, I will post some photos....

 

cool/ good luck with the project

 

Can you post up some pics of how it fits and how close that is to the shock towers? I'd really appreciate it cause I'm going to be putting a Clevor in my 73 here soon and would like to have an idea about what i'm in for.

 

Oh dude, it is close with the cleveland...In fact, a couple guys on here have done the swap without cutting the towers..I wouldnt try it. The Clevor, if its a 351 bock, will be even closer. Cleveland block is 9.2 deck height, windsor is 9.5, will be even wider. I';; get some pics tomorrow. I tried tonight, but my camera died..have to charge the batteries.... again. Good luck with yours, I'll try to post some photos this week...

 

Yeah, I know it's gonna be a real tight fit. Just changing plugs on the 302 is a chore. My motor is a 9.5" deck height block and I had to get some extra tall custom valve covers to fit over the valvetrain. I was planning on cutting the shock towers from the start as there's almost no good way around it.

Your Cleveland install will be a good reference and I'd appreciate the pics. Sounds like you have a very cool project going on.

 

Dude, you're gonna have fun...
The 9.2 block is more than enough frustration with those heads.
My head hurts just thinking about a 9.5 block w/C heads.

I didn't shave my towers, mistake 1...
Then I used fancy Moroso valve covers, mistake 2...

I think I could have gotten the valve covers off if I didn't use the tall ones.
Then I may have been able to get a child to put his hands down
there and pull the plugs for me.
But with the tall valve covers, I couldn't even remove
the covers with the engine in the car!

What you doing for headers?
All you can do is custom far as I know.
At least you can buy headers for a 9.2 Cleveland.
They actually aren't terrible. Nice big tubes and far less interference
with the towers compared to W heads.
I'll post several pics for ya.
The first one is mine, the others are just sniped from the net.







Tubular Automotive headers for 351c in Mav.
They come in various tube sizes for the asking.
AutoKrafters and a few others retail these under their own name.
Go to the source and get them cheaper.


A 302 block Clevor...



SpeedMaven:
Sounds like you are making good progress!
I need some more 351c pics!
I probably have at least 2GB in 351c pics I saved
from the web over the years.

 

Sounds like it will be a screamer. Looking forward to the pics.

 

Same here! Welcome back too!!!

 

I will take a couple pics this week before I pull it back out. I just wanted to be sure where to cut before I did it...Doesn't look too bad at all. I will put it back with 1/8 inch steel, then mount the C with 1/4 inch plate. Lots of room for headers in there. I will probably build my own headers for it.

 

ratio411, thanks for those pics. I was planning on cutting the shock towers no matter what. I'm pretty sure that my valve covers are even taller than your moroso's and it's a 9.5" deck block... I'm also going the custom header route because I'm doing a single turbo setup. Here's a pic of my motor, I don't think I could even drop it down far enough without the valve covers hitting.



If you collect pics of Clevors I have more if you want them.

 

Those raised exhaust ports will give you fits for the headers too..Definitely custom ones. You may be on deck for a M2 setup instead...That rear sump pan wont work with stock Mav suspension either. That thing sure looks sweet...

 

Purty!


Edit:
Get rid of the Fox oil pan!
You might not get your tower braces on with those covers!
My Morosos were real close to the braces and master cylinder.
Just don't do what I did and run without braces!
If you look real hard at the tops of my shock towers, you will
see where the portapower dented them. I had to spread the
towers back into place after running for a very short period
without braces. The towers sagged so bad, the braces would
not go back on.

 

That engine looks awesome! I would so much love to do one of those, but.....too many projects not enough funds.

 

Cleveland comes back out tomorrow to tear down and send to the machine shop. While it's gone, the towers will get notched, finished and painted. Like I said earlier, most of the car is bare metal except for the roof and one quarter, so as soon as the rest is stripped, it will get a new coat of sealer, followed by grabber green paint with black stripes. Instead of a grabber hood, which has begun fetching stupid money these days, I will be using a plain steel hood with a Boss 429 copy scoop. Looks good, catches air, and is fairly cheap from MAS. Hopefully, by the time the motor gets back from the machine shop, the body will be done for the most part. Still have to swap out the 8 inch for the 9 inch rear too. I have enough to keep me busy for 2 months, then I can assemble the 12.5:1 solid cammed cleveland and hear the thunder. Gawd, I cant wait....

 

Where are you going to get fuel for 12.5:1 compression?