Turbo? Will it fit?

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  1. Mav_beater76

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    I've got a Garrett turbo that im going to try to put on my v6. the trubo came off of a thunderbird ...if i remember correctly...:huh: but i've no clue how to put this on....its not like my old mazda..and i dont wanna break anything. i checked the web and couldnt find any directions,.. or helpful hints so i'm hopein' that ya'll can help me out. :rolleyes:
     
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    dmhines Dixie Maverick Boy

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    How did you get a V6 in your Maverick?
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    dan,
    there was a v6 '70 mav. in griffin, at the bone yard that they sold for a whole car. earl and i went and looked at it. there was about 18" from the rad. to the water pump.
    don't know anything about "turbo".(wanted to keep it "thread" correct).
    ...frank...:D
     
  4. Jamie Miles

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    A 4.1 liter is a 250. I'll bet he has a straight 6 and just dosen't realize it's not a V6 engine.

    There are very few V6's what will fit in a Maverick.
     
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    Whoa! Cadillac, Buick,Olds,and pontiac ALL had 4.1 V6s
     
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    Most auto parts stores I have been to list the 250 as a "4.1 Liter 6 cyl".
     
  7. Dan Starnes

    Dan Starnes Original owner

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    Brandon,, If all your sparkplugs can be counted on one side of the car,, then you have an inline 6. If you have to count the spark plugs from 2 sides of the car, or 2 sides of the motor,, which would make a V,, then you have a V6. With that being said, and I dont want to stop you from your quest of turbocharging your car. Adding the turbo is quite a bit of work. Actually a new Magazine I subscribe to details turbo charging and I learned somethings I had never even thought of. I am sure someone here will provide a link to a website that can school you more on the subject of turbocharging. Just because you dont know how to install the turbocharger on your car today, does not mean you cannot learn it to install it another day.
    Dan
     
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    That turbocharger is a piece of junk!!! I will buy it from you for $50 and haul it to the junk yard for you. I will even pay for shipping.

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    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    But seriously, folks.

    If you get that thing on and working, I would love to see pics and detailed steps you took to do it. I would love to do a turbo or supercharger.

    Now, is there room for a turbo on a V-8 maverick with the shocktowers still installed? Just so MavBeater will know when he does his engine swap... (y)
     
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    My little knowledge of the subject leaves me thinking it would be really hard to turbocharge one with the shock towers in and a stock hood, guess maybe without a hood it could be done?
    Dan
     
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    maverick75 Gotta Love Mavs!

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    thanks for that link it is very helpful, and i'll look into putting that on once i fix my motor mounts :49:
     
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    With a 6 banger it would be a cakewalk to fit a turbo under the hood. If it came off of a t-bird, it is most likely an IHI, or a T3 neither of which would be enough turbo for your car. I would recommend a holset HX35 or larger for your app. They can be had off ebay for less than $100 sometimes :) It is alot of work to fab a turbo setup, and you will have to mod a carb for blowthru and tune it to avoid destroying your engine. Long story short, no, it wont work on your car :D

    EDIT: if you REEEEEALLY want to put a turbo on your car, go here. Its the best site on the net for info on turboing non-turbo fords IMHO.
     
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    First off, check this thread (yes, the search button is your friend!!):

    http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?t=1049&highlight=turbo+pics

    Yes, that's my old '74. Budget single turbocharged 302 V8....made a ton of torque and horsepower, but as I said...it was a "budget" build and I should have done a few things different. So, yes, it can be done--even with the unmodified original shock towers in place (like I did).

    A t-bird turbo will work fine on a 250...but it will boost almost instantly off idle (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and will become a restriction at say above 3500 RPM (how high do 250s rev anyway??)...which to me, is a perfect set up for a I-6 in a Maverick. After all, if we wanted a LOT of high-end HP, wouldn't you think it'd be a better to go with a V8? To give an idea...before the 302 went into that '74 I had, it had a 250...I also turbocharged the 250, a teeny-tiny IHI off of a '87-'88 Thunderbird mounted behind the engine next to the transmission..no oil lines hooked up to it or anything, and it did just fine. Granted, I didn't drive it much other than around the yard (sounded like an 18 wheeler 6 cyl diesel) but it DID work. The Garrett you have is a model T3---which has a .48 A/R turbine size and a .60 compressor. The Holset turbos will be overkill for your application.....they'll flow enough air to support 30+psi and about 500 HP, and on the lowly 250 it would start making boost at....what?....3000 RPM? By then, the motor's done breathing anyway. To give you an idea what the smaller Holset is good for...I'm looking for one (model HY35W) for my 2.3 4 cylinder in the Mustang. Full boost is usually about 3800-4000 on those engines and they're capable of 400 HP fairly easily, not taking into consideration the stock EFI which is the limiting factor usually.

    here's a couple other sites of interest:
    http://www.turbomustangs.com/feature_cars/willfalcon.php

    http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/ford-falcon-turbo-mk2-review.htm

    The aussies get all the good stuff!
     
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    I guess you could TRY the turbo, but I have to disagree with the turbo being a perfect size for your application. Sure, you COULD hook it up and probably overspin it, and very possibly grenade it into your engine. If you dont really care if your engine blows then by all means try it, but I would not expect stellar results. With the proper AR housings, I think an HX35 would work much better than a single T3. A T04b would also work well for your small(ish) cube engine.

    PS, dont be fooled by how simple a turbo looks outside the car. There are alot of things invilved with making a system that will work well and not cause problems. You will have to feed the turbo oil, and tap a hole in your oil pan so that the oil can drain. You have to fabricate a header and a downpipe, and all the cold side plumbing as well. Then you have the fuel delivery to take care of. It is far from a bolt it in and go situation, so be prepared to be without your mav for a while as you figure all these little details out.
     
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