Twin Turbo 460 question

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  1. blaisa

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    I am wanting to know if anyone on here has done or knows of someone who has done a Maverick with a twin turbo 460. If you have do you have pics?

    Thanks, Andy
     
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    MaverickDan I wanna go fast!!!

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    Someone on here has a single turbo 460, I don't remember his name. Your gonna need a MII front end to fit the 460 and enginuity to fit 2 turbos in there.
     
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    MII? If you mean Mustang II front end then I am already good there. I have plenty of room as I do not have strut towers or fender wells to worry about.
     
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    theres a turbo 460 maverick on utube but I dont know about twin turbo
     
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    Never seen twins on a big block maverick, most people are smart and go with one because it's just better all around.

    There's several small block mavericks running twins:

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    there's a couple on youtube also.
     
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    Cool link and pics. If I was to do it I would have to insist on it all fitting under the stock hood. I think I would also like it to be carbed to keep the expense down. Of course this is an idea I have since I have 2 good low compression 460's and no other use for them.

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    uh yeah no if you cant afford a good EFI system you're not going to afford a twin turbo setup. Along with the fact that you have to change the entire front suspension.

    Just keep it simple, run a small block with a single. Carbed if you want.

    For a Twin turbo BBF you really have to have a HUGE budget. Not to mention the skills.

    Sell those 460s and it could fund a nice project. Or if you're dead set on using one sell the maverick and find a car that fits a big block without having to swap out the suspension.

    Here's a good forum, you can ask questions there to veteran turbo guys:

    http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php
     
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    I would do a single(which I did) it costs less you, don't need two of everything and you can get the same power out of it. They only down side to the single is slightly slower spool time. I don't know about big blocks but for my sbf and aftermarket efi intake, injectors, fuel pump and megasquirt costs about the same as a good blow through setup.
     
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    460's around here in complete (carb to pan) / good running (see it run prior to buying) order cost right at $300-$400. I already have a pair of new turbo's which have been sitting around my shop in a box for a couple of years which I would guess would be sized right about where a 460 would need. Regardless that would be the turbo's which I would be using. I can fabricate about anything in my shop. Thanks for the link.
     
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    Maverick75 nailed it. The suspension and chassis alone will cost far more than the motor/turbo to even have a chance at hooking up that kind of power. Even on a low budget build with stock type parts that thing will make over 600 horsepower. And a more dedicated and expensive higher boost build can easily make upwards of 1,000 but the level of build/parts quality will rise exponentially. Figure 20 G's into the car when finished to even come close to supporting that kind of power. And that's not even using the best stuff available out there right now.

    And not that I'm against such extreme fun factor and novelty or trying to disuade you.. but I would have to ask why? Might be cheaper to just disconnect the rear brakes and pour transmission fluid on super skinny rear tires! Same effect at a much lower price. lol
     
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    The car already has the following frame / suspension upgrades. Do you think that they will be sufficient? Back halfed with 9" with coil overs, 4 link with diagonal bar, spool (not sure of what gearing), all front subframe, strut towers and inner fenders removed and Mustang II front and installed, Extra heavy duty sub-frame connectors made from 2X3 1/8th inch wall square tube and 10 point roll cage. Rear tubs have been modified to run 14" wide slicks.
     
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    ok.. so, I'll have to retract most of those previous points. Sounds like you're ready for big power already. Has it been certified for a number yet?

    then we get back to the question of that 460 builds legitimacy in such a chassis. I see far more turbo smallblocks on the streets and the few times I go to the track these days with most of the big-block builds being Chevs. Not really sure where the cast 460 cranks limits are at(I'd guess around 600 tops).. but the heavy truck versions used steel cranks and that's the minimum I'd even consider starting with on such a build. Otherwise you're into the aftermarket which often gets pricy. And no matter what tricks you do to them..stock rods would be out of the question on anything much over 550 horse too.. so there's that to keep in mind.

    Is this car going to be track only or does it need to be street legal too?
     
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    I want the car to be able to be street driven as well. I have always been under the impression that the BB would out produce SB dollar for dollar producing torque. Right now the car has 10.5 slicks. Not sure if the previous owner ever had the car certified. I have not. The cage is chrome moly. Yeah it has always been the case with BBC compared to BBF expense wise but I am a Ford man who gets sickened whenever I go to car shows and see Fords with Chevy drivetrains in them. I figure it this way: If I can produce the 550 HP and say 700 ft lbs of torque I would be happy. If I blow a 460 up then it is cheap just to buy another. I have too many cars to actually drive it that much, but this combo sounds like fun. BTW, did any of the huge cars of the late 60's and early 70's have steel cranks? One of my engines is out of a 71 Lincoln Continental.
     
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    Like Gary says, the rear of the car sounds good, not much different than mine except I've got ladder bars....................now with that said the stock motor will never hold together over 5/7psi and the biggest issue with a turbo is air flow............getting it in and out..................and the stock heads are only good for 400/500hp. The cast crank will not last with twin turbos nor will the rods and pistons.....................helped a friend put a Ford 514 crate motor in a 67 Mustang over 12 years ago and he used a single turbo with blow through and the car blew the dyno because the dyno couldn't handle over 700lbft of torque....so I'm pretty sure the motor was making over 800hp..............but it was monster on the street......................I'll try and find some pictures.
    Also, if you are aiming for over 800hp I'd make sure you have at least 33/35 splined axles and that your pumpkin has the largest front bearing you can find.........along with maybe bracing the axles to the back of the pumpkin.
    My guess to build the motor............well.............A LOT!
     

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