What could be causing this......

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  1. sabrina

    sabrina EyeNurse

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    We already knew when we bought our car that it had "choke problems". We took it to the mechanic--he said that the carb had rust in it. He cleaned it and did not charge us anything. He said that it did not need a new or re-built carb. Anyway--the problems persist. Here's what happens....On the first start-up of the day, car almost never cranks without having to pour gas in the top of the carb. After you pour the gas in, it cranks up OK, but you have to rev it up a little and hold it there until it warms up some. After that, for the rest of the whole day, it cranks up just fine. But--the very next day, same old thing over again. What could be ailing Ms. Frankie? :huh: Help me out with your opinions, guys. Thanks. :tiphat:

    I am going to be taking her back in to the mechanic to get that fuel guage issue fixed (just as soon as the fuel guage arrives in the mail), and I also want to get her fixed so that she CRANKS up every morning.
     
  2. eddie1975

    eddie1975 Windsor Specialist

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    fuel filter probely wouldnt hurt

    thats a carb for ya too, my truck with 300 takes a few mins to get warmed up to idle

    im sure a new/rebuilt carb wouldnt hurt, rust in the carb is never good
     
  3. 71gold

    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    does it have an inline filter (not the little one on the carb.) ? if it does replace it with the biggest one that will fit...replace the little one also.
    are you saying you have to pour gas in the carb. every morning? if so maybe the ...fuel pump...is loosing it's prime...:huh: check for a leak in the line from the ...pump to the carb...sometimes that leak is hard to find....it is dried up by the next day...

    ...frank...
     
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    Instead of pouring gas into the carb, do what the rest of us carb owners do and just pump the gas a few times. This will squirt raw gas into the carb, without having to remove the air cleaner and opening the hood.

    Experiment and figure out how many times you need to pump. "Pump" means "stomp it to the floor" a couple times before you turn the key.

    My old Edelbrock carb had a choke, and one pump was all it needed.

    My new carb has no choke and I need to pump it twice on a warm day, 3-4 times on colder days.
     
  5. sabrina

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    Pumping the gas pedal does not seem to work for me. You can pump the gas pedal and turn that key til you're blue in the face, and she will not turn over (just first crank of the day for some reason). One day the Mav was the only car I had available, and I almost ran the battery down trying to get it cranked (that was before I knew about the gas in the car thing).
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    ..with the breather off...look into the throat of the carb. work the linkage full open a few times and see if it is squriting gas...

    ...Frank...
     
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    might have a dirty squirter
     
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    Like frank said, it should be squirting gas if you look down into the carb (engine off, of course, unless you have a facial hair issue that needs to be resolved once and for all!)

    A carb should squirt a little bit of gas in when it is pumped to the floor. If it doesn't then there is your problem.

    Depending on the car and it's cold-weather "personality"...it should start on a couple of pumps of gas.

    EDIT--Sorry eddie, I was typing with a broken finger when you posted...
     
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    First thing in the am, pump it twice to the floor, don't start it, look down the carb...is the choke closed? yes, might be cloged "squiters" or bad squiter pump. no, adjust the choke or have the linkages checked for bent/missing...
    71gold (Frank) has a good lead also, but the fuel bowl should still have fuel for start ups. Good idea to check them lines as he suggested just for peace of mind of any fuel leaks.
     
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    I would safely say that the carb needs the accelerator pump replaced. Some part stores like NAPA may have the part by it self, but you may end up getting a rebuild kit for the gaskets. If you were closer....I would gladly do it for you(y)
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    from post #1... "We took it to the mechanic-He said that it did not need a new or re-built carb." :huh:

    ...:bouncy:...
     
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    its alright me and frank posted exact same time
     
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    I don't care what the mechanic says....the carb needs a rebuild.
     
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    I concour with the "It needs a rebuild" crew. An accelerator pump is likely the problem but personally I would rebuild the whole thing. As for the mechanic who first looked at it... I'm sure he wouldn't be the first one to ever make a mistake. Nor the last!
     
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    My thoughts exactly.
     

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