I Need A Cure For the Common Question...

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ShuttleMav, Dec 7, 2006.

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  1. ShadowMaster

    ShadowMaster The Bad Guy

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    I'd use a 393" or a 408" Cleveland. As Paul stated, the VE on the Cleveland "gets right" in one of two ways:
    1. You spin a 351" Cleveland up around 8000 rpm.
    *OR*
    2. You make the engine bigger. :evilsmile (Yes, that's the voice of experience.)

    Example: 1979 Fairmont Futura; 393" Cleveland; 4V heads; Torker intake; 950 cfm carb; flat tappet solid lifter cam; Jerico four speed; 9" rear; 28x10 slicks; 2844 lbs. = 9.34 @ 144 mph.

    Make a Cleveland around 400" and the 4V heads come to life. If it were mine I'd go 393" (cost effective) with a retrofit hydraulic roller cam (for the street). To get a Windsor engine to make similar power you'd need the same inches but expensive heads to feed it.
     
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  2. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    Man, that is one UGLY car, but the engine bay makes me feel all kinda tickly inside...

    I wish I could find better, higher quality pictures of that, or see it in person.

    AND...no cutdowns on my "tickly" response...I know you all feel it too... :D
     
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  3. RabidCustoms

    RabidCustoms sic minds demand sic toys

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    must be the holiday season,.......everyone is getting a little giddy around here :D
     
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    ShuttleMav Member

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    Oh man, you guys are all crazy on here:rofl2: Anyways, thanks, everyone, for the all of the opinions. I def def got some useful insite here...(y) :bowdown: :bananaman :tiphat:
     
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  5. eddie1975

    eddie1975 Windsor Specialist

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    not us , its just scott we are normal [​IMG]
     
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    :29: Those were the days when show and go really meant something , today
    lean is mean and anything extra is old hat!
     
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  7. tim keck

    tim keck truckdrivintrailertrash

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    I'd rather have the W,because when I was a kid and I knew my grandmother was gonna give me her '70 LTD(351W)everyone told me the W was junk,Clevelands the way to go,blah,blah.Now the W(and 302) has pretty much become the standard for all hi-po SBF applications.Kinda feels like gettin' even now that the aftermarket has embraced those "junk" motors.
     
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  8. ratio411

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    The 221-302 was around for 40 years...
    The 351w for around 30 years...
    The 351c for only 4 years!

    If it wasn't for Austrailia, we would have no aftermarket parts for the C!
    If the C had been around for 30-40 years, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
     
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  9. tim keck

    tim keck truckdrivintrailertrash

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    You're absolutely right.But I'd say that packaging,weight and a 5 grand bottom end topped w/8 grand heads is probably why we only got 'em for 4 years.Personally I don't like them.But they sure do have a loyal following for a motor that was around such a short time.
     
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