Manual Transmission

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  1. Krazy Comet

    Krazy Comet Tom

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    Well I wouldn't use one one either, had a '86 Mustang with cable clutch and a couple different clutches in it, just plain hated the feel... Was a good portion of the reason I sold that car...
     
  2. FreddyC

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    Thanks for all the input everyone. I actually found a nice complete set up on Craig's list,

    MUSTANG 5.0 79-93 5spd Transmission/Conversion Parts
    79-93 Ford Mustang 5.0
    Complete T5 5spd Transmission Setup/Conversion
    Complete setup for $695.00

    Or individual prices

    Borg Warner T5 5 spd Transmission $395.00
    5spd Aluminum Bellhousing $75.00
    Stock Shifter Complete $45.00
    Clutch Fork $25.00
    Used Flywheel $35.00
    Used Clutch $45.00
    Driveshaft w/Yokes $45.00
    Double Hump Crossmember $25.00
    Clutch/Brake Pedal Assembly $49.00
    Clutch Cable $30.00
    All Hardware $30.00

    It seems like a great deal for, but of course everything is used and it is a 3 hour drive one way to pick it up. I am wondering if you think it is worthwhile for what I wish to do. My friend who is rebuilding the engine said he can do any welding or fabrication we might also need. Also wondering if it is worthwhile rebuilding the transmission or replacing the clutch.
    Fred
     
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    predfan2001 David in Tn

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    I'm getting too old to shift gears. I like C4s.
     
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    What car is the crossmember and pedals from? The Mustang parts will be way different than what fits the Maverick.

    Unless there's an obvious problem with the tranny I would run it to see how it works. If the tranny has an aluminum bearing support you may want to upgrade to a steel piece at this time. As for the clutch, unless it looks almost new I would probably just replace it because it's a PITA to do later. Have the flywheel resurfaced. I'm running a CenterForce diaphram clutch in mine, love it.

    Eventually you'll want to get rid of the stock shifter 'cause they really suck. But that's an easy 15 minute job from inside the car.
     
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    Gonna throw this one out there:

    I am with rthomas on sticking with the manual clutch. Most of the hydraulic kits I have seen for the Mavs are the internal slave cylinder style(inside the bell housing) and unless you get a very high end (high price) kit you are going to have nothing but annoyances with that system. They can be very prone to heat making the gaskets fail, causing them to puke hydraulic fluid on every actuation. They require bench bleeding prior to install, and a full transmission drop to install or service.

    I would not go that route on a budget, or in a time sensitive application. When I do my T5 conversion down the road I'm using the spacer.

    In fact I know a 4x4 shop owner who told me almost 20% of his business is replacing internal style slave cylinders on manual transmissions.

    Too much street racing where I live still. I've had every hopped up ricer track ready car in my apartment complex eat my dust, and a few of the motorcycles too. On the upside I don't have to worry about my car getting towed anymore. 1 of the motorcycle riders I impressed with my rust bucket works for the tow company that does our apartments. We have a 48 hour move it or get towed rule, which I no longer have to worry about when my car throws a fit. Also the Honda guys all give me a wide berth after I started dusting them in my wifes Accord Wagon.
     
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    i REALLY HATE american prices on these kind of parts!!!! :cry: :mad: :badwords:
    down here in mexico, only the t5 without nothing cost me 800USD...
    incredible!
     
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    Because no one has ever installed a performance clutch in a '79-'04 Mustang with a cable clutch. :rolleyes: I had to drill one more hole then you, and didn't touch my exhaust. I have a 6 cyl. so nothing exhaust wise applies, but if the cable is routed correctly it shouldn't matter. You don't have to hammer on anything if you install it right (hint, don't weld the quadrant to the TOP of the pedal like the MUSTANG SPECIFIC directions say to do). It took 4 hours to install the cable setup, and most of that was lowering the steering column to swap the pedals out. Or.. stick with the outdated z bar design with mechanical linkages and obsolete hard to find parts to break or wear out. If mine breaks or wears out, it takes 15 mins to throw another cable on.
     
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    From what I have just read from your posts (thanks everyone), it looks like picking up the tranny, bell housing, forks, and flywheel are worthwhile, but the clutch, crossmember, pedal assembly and stock shifter will need to be replaced anyway. Is it even possible to find a mechanical pedal assembly for a Maverick? I would guess they are fairly rare.
     
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    Yes, they are advertised from time to time and members are good about offering what they have when there is inquiry.
     
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    Exactly why I'm using early Mustang z-bar and rod, every Mustang supply house sells em.
     
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    I'll second that. It seems way too many people are too afraid to do a tiny bit of custom work to get something to fit. There is nothing outdated about a mechanical Z bar linkage, and quite frankly nothing beats the feel or simplicity of it.

    As for hard to find parts, if the parts are hard to find make something else work. Just like the frame and engine side bushings for a stock Z bar. Get some readily available mustang parts and a McMaster Carr catalog. Problem solved.


     
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    I`m going to use the expensive hydraulic throw out bearing set up in my car,$400,gets the clutch fork out of the picture for the 1& 3/4 in. crites headers.Trans is going to be a G-Force clutchless so feel does`nt matter,I`ve talked to other racers & they said the hyd. works fine.The clutch will be a McCloud pressure plate adjustable one,$800,if you wantta play,you gotta pay.
     
  13. FreddyC

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    So, I think I am going to pull the trigger on the package I listed above. It's used but only has 113K miles out of a 1989 Stang. Is there any problem mating it to my 1983 engine? We are going to go hydraulic clutch so we don't need the pedals or linkage. I assume I don't need the driveshaft as well. Anything I might be missing?
     
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    You gonna pump the cylinder by hand?
     
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    You gonna pump the cylinder by hand? :jumping: I meant we are going to add a third pedal with a master cylinder attached.
     

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